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    Nathan Vass: NRFF Artist of the Month (Interview)

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    It's so much fun to be interviewed about stuff besides the coronavirus...

    More importantly, it's an honor to be recognized the New Renaissance Film Festival as their Artist of the Month, and a special treat to be interviewed by Anya Patel. I can't stress how gratifying it is to work with such a professional as her, who read up on me and my site in detail before preparing this interview– which allowed us to skip past the usual "so what inspired you to become an artist"-type introductory questions. Click the link below to dive deep on my film, cinema, the importance of strong female characters, recommendations for aspiring filmmakers, and a whole lot more!

    Read the full interview here (with clips, trailer, other video and photos!).

    ​Enjoy!
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    Freedom From

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    “Here is really shitty,” she said.

    It was an appraisal of frankness I wouldn’t have expected given her appearance– older than my parents’ generation, possibly much older, with an accent hailing from somewhere far away– maybe one of those hidden countries, the kind we forget to remember. She seemed rich with unseen culture. I wondered what worlds she once daily knew, perhaps in Belarus, Moldova, the Baltics. We were heading up Third Avenue, approaching Pike Street. The view was an echo of New York City before the 90s cleanup– life in profusion, reduced to scraps and oozing with color and death.


    “Sometimes,” I replied. You know me; I can’t agree with such a statement outright.
    “Ha!”
    I like it out here. I met her halfway, saying, “Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.” 

    She chuckled. Our comments sounded ridiculous looking around, surrounded as we were by sharp and putrid angles lurking in the shadows. But I think she caught the reason for my drift; I have to be out here, and I need my soul to survive. Bemoaning the state of things never helps. I said, “I have to look for the bright side, you know?” 
    She nodded wearily: “Yeah, it's true.”
    “It's how we stay sane.”
    “They're mostly harmless. These people.”
    “They're mostly harmless.” 
    “In my opinion,” she added. “They deserve better.”
    “They deserve better. I agree.”
    “It's just shitty. Amazon, what they have done. They say they give 500 million dollars, but where is it? I don't see it. I think it's corruption. In my opinion.”
    “I think so too! They've made life hard for everybody!”
    “I was going to make a donation. But I decided not to.”
    “That's good.”
    “There is so much corruption going on right now, this country.”
    “It's terrible!”
    She shook her head. “I think this country is corruption.” 
    “I think so too!”

    Her accent told of places and times where such thoughts were not allowed. Her sharing this was special. A gesture. Her next line, a farewell, was a wink:
    “I love this country!”
    “Ha! I love this country!”

    It was both a world-weary joke and a genuine expression, all at once. We do love this country. We who know of inhumanities abroad have the perspective to realize what freedom exists here. I thought of a young African immigrant who recently exclaimed to me, “Are you kidding me? This place is great! Here you can be who you want, how you want! Do you know how good you have it?”

    Then I thought of Churchill’s famous quip, and its reminder toward frame of reference: “Democracy’s the worst form of government. Except for all the other ones!”


    Yes, there are things intolerable in this place. But here we don’t have to express such by fearfully repeating, “I love this country.” She could say that to me not in self-preservation, but for a companionable chuckle. We ended on a note of humor, not dejection. Laughter keeps us closer to the light, gets us through life’s journey intact. You have to laugh.

    I watched her walk across the street, through the lingering mass on the corner– through, around, and completely unafraid.
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    Talking it Out, Together

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    He was talking about his dog. After rush hour and after sunset, there is time for dog conversations.

    “I don't let people pet them though,” he said. He was a younger man like myself, at the in-between moment of your thirties– neither young anymore nor old. You’re merely there, hopefully aware the prime of your life is drifting by with each passing second. These are the days of laughter before forgetting, when we still remembered the lessons of careless youth, but could temper them with the insight of the years. The problems in your life may be harder than before; but you’re now better equipped to handle them.

    He reached a hand down to his pet’s affectionate lapping tongue. “Just today I was walking them right over there by Safeway and this white girl wanted to pet them and I said no and she called me a nigger.”
    “Oh no,” I moaned. I wanted him to know I cared. “In this day and... man, stuff like that breaks my heart. People using that word.”
    “It took me back… She called me a nigger!”
    “That word’s just got too much awfulness behind it.” 

    I was reminded of a conversation I recently had with a middle-aged homeless woman I enjoy chatting with. She’d just been called the same, and we agreed the word has more hurt than people know. We were standing outside my bus at the U District terminal as she said, “kids throwing it around like it don't have no effect.”
    “Totally. I mean I get the idea, what they're trying to do, that by overusing the word people might divest it of its hateful power. I get the idea. But. It hasn't worked!”
    She nodded emphatically. “It hasn't!”
    “It's just as horrible and awful as it ever was!”

    I tried to sum all that up in a line to the dog-owning passenger beside me now: “That just hits me where it hurts, somebody throwin’ that kind a energy at somebody else.”
    “And she was wit’ a black dude too!”
    “What?”
    “I know!”
    “That don't make any kind a sense!”
    “And she said it loud. Other dudes heard everything, and they were like, these two white dudes even were like damn, that's fucked up.”
    “Well, yeah,” I said. “‘Cause it is.”
    “I stay up in Fremont,” he said. “But this was just– this was down here in the ‘hood!”
    “Ohmygoodness that was here?” It was almost funny. “Who did she think she was? Where did she think she was?”
    “All I said was don't pet the dog.”
    “I'm so sorry that happened.”
    He looked up. “Dude, you don't gotta apologize!”

    In Korean there are two words for apology: one implying guilt, and another for what I was trying to express now– a general observation that you sympathize with a wrong being a wrong. English doesn’t offer the distinction; you have to qualify it. I said, “I know, I just feel bad that it happened!”

    He watched the streetlights go by. We drifted toward a red as he leaned back. “It's that Trump, man. People be sayin’ this shit more now. At the rallies out there, they're beating up black people!”
    “He enables these type of attitudes that should've died out years ago. They gotta get somebody else in there next term. Anybody.”
    “Not just anyone, anything.”
    “It doesn't matter who it is. I just hope people vote!”

    He wasn’t riled. His voice was a musing one. “The thing is, he's not really racist. He just don't care about anyone but hisself. He just in there ‘cause he angry that a black man was president. White people think he care about them, but he don't.”

    They were words that had been living on his mind, and he finally had an outlet for them. You could feel the gentle rushing flow of energy, the strange mixture of enthusiastically talking about something negative. The pleasure of understanding through reflection.

    “That's true,” I said. “He's just taking advantage of ignorant white people who think–”
    “Yeah, like rednecks! They believe whatever he say, they think he's gonna do something for them. If he actually was, givin’ them money or something, sure. But at the end of the day they're still gonna be rednecks.”

    There wasn’t much I could add to that. We drove forward for a spell, passing through Columbia City, as I considered the varying perspectives and reactions people make based on the information they have. How life looks when you don’t have to interact with a lot of people outside your culture and class group. The easiest way to develop prejudices is to have no contact with the demographics in question, and rely solely on the questionable information of others. How lucky I am here, in a neighborhood this culturally dense and rich. This street has more of the globe’s cultures than entire states in our Union. My mind wandered back to his anecdote.

    “Was she older?”
    “Naw, she was young. Twenty-something, twenty-five.”
    “Man. I keep hoping those type uh attitudes will die out with the new generations. But then stuff like this happens. What's confusing is she's mouthin’ off in the hood…”
    “Yeah. If this was up in Fremont... If I’da done something like, really horrible, then I could understand it more.”

    I admired and appreciated his perspective even as I felt compelled to undermine it. “That's generous of you, bro, but even if it was in Fremont and even if you had done some kinda unspeakable thing it still wouldn't be okay. And she was with a black guy?”
    “Yeah.”
    “Let me guess,” I said. “He didn't say anything.”
    “Yup, he's just lookin’ at the ground.”
    “Musta been ashamed, didn't know what to say.”
    “She must be real good in bed. You know she's good.”
    “It's just– it's unforgivable. If your girlfriend goes around hating on folks and saying the N-word to people, are you gonna stay with them? No. You're not gonna stay with them. You're gonna leave ‘em! Who is this guy?”
    “Don't make any kind a sense!”
    “You know, she was lucky. That it was you and that you're a guy who thinks ahead, who's…” I just came out and said it. “That you're a nice guy, basically.”
    “I didn't do anything ‘cause it ain't worth it. If I sic these dogs on her, it's gonna be my fault and they ain't gonna give me no inch.”

    I tried to reassure him. “You don't gotta do anything though. ‘Cause someday she's gonna say something to somebody who's not gonna tolerate her behavior and they're not gonna be smart like you. They're not gonna put up with it. If she keeps up like this, she's in for it. It's like I tell myself on the bus, if somebody comes at me, I tell myself I don't have to do anything, 'cause somebody else will take care of this guy for me down the line. ‘Cause I'm trying to keep this job!”
    “Yeah.”
    “That's how the world works. What goes around comes around.”
    “What goes around comes around.”

    These are the days of settling awareness. Ten years ago I don’t think either of us would’ve had the presence of mind to so easily see beyond our emotions– especially for that to be a default response when negativity’s being thrown your way. That’s when you really need to think a few chess moves ahead, and that’s also exactly when it can be hardest to do so. Emotions are hot, loud, messy things, and they make us human; they give us color.

    ​But wisdom is never loud. “All epiphanies are whispers,” Ernie Lawton told me. Sometimes the quiet path is the higher one. Sometimes not acting is an act, not responding is a response: an essential gesture of discipline and example, a reminder to yourself and others of more important things.


    Sometimes you just have to keep walking on by with your dogs, head held high. 

    You can always talk it out with the bus driver later.
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    Nathan Interviewed by TransitCenter

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    The pandemic interviews continue!

    ​The wonderful Kapish Singla interviews Nathan for TransitCenter's High Frequency podcast. We explore sanitation measures, reduced bathroom access, rates of change within bureaucratic systems, and much more.

    Listen to or read Kapish's Ep 6: Nathan Vass - Operating a Bus During a Pandemic here! (The audio is better than the transcript; like all transcription software, the translation of both of our words isn't perfect.)
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    Nathan Talks to Dave Ross

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    There wasn't even a pandemic happening when we had this conversation. How quaint. How fabulous.

    There was a pandemic during our shorter subsequent conversation, wherein we go over everyone's favorite virus (further thoughts on that lovely conversation and how it ended up being used in some circles here), but this 20-minute discussion is about everything besides pandemics, which, wouldn't you know, still have relevance!

    There is one interesting twist to our thoughts on buses being free, however; in the broadcast we hypothesize about that oft-trumpeted and frankly lovely concept, but COVID-19 has shown us what free buses really look like. I've often thought it was a good idea, but we now know that security personnel at terminals and extra (extra) cleaning would need to be a concern. 

    Click here to listen to our January 6 chat! Description from KIRO's website: 


    Nathan Vass drives an overnight Metro bus route through Seattle's downtown core. He's also a filmmaker, an artist, and now, an author. On his well-known blog, Nathan tells stories about the people he encounters along his route, and that blog is now a book, called "The Lines That Make Us."
    Nathan joins Dave Ross in the studio to tell us some of those stories, and explain why he's stuck around on one of the least popular routes as long as he has.